cryonics

Please join to save a life, and say ‘fuck death!’ (and deathists)

Kim Suozzi is 23, and about to die from a fatal brain tumor. She has already lived far longer than expectations. Kim is seeking donations to help fund her cryosuspension. The Venturists have created a charitable fund for all donations and almost achieved the funding goal in a week. With some more help, she will have a chance. Please DONATE NOW to give Kim hope and a good chance to continue life.

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Kim Suozzi

I have donated what I can afford, and many others have done the same. In only a week, the great Internet community of kind and compassionate cryonicists  people has almost raised the 35k (US$) needed for the cheapest cryonics option with the Cryonics Institute.

With some more help, we will reach our funding hoal and give Kim hope and a good chance to continue life.

Are we totally sure, with absolute certainty, that cryonics will work? No, of course we cannot be totally sure until the first cryonics patient is revived. There could be unexpected road blocks, not only technical but also political: I am afraid the deathist killers (see below) may try something, and therefore I think cryonics should be geographically diversified, with new options beyond reach of deathist politicians and admins.

Are we positively optimist, with reasonable confidence, that cryonics will work? You bet. Repairing biological machines (yes, we are biological machines) damaged by extreme freezing is not feasible at this moment, but there is no reason to deny its feasibility in-principle, and there is ample scientific evidence that it may be possible someday soon and today’s cryonics patients may wake up in a world with very advanced life extension options. We are not offering certainty of immortality, but a very good chance at a very long life in a better world, and I hope to meet Kim there and buy her a drink.

My friend Max More, the father of modern transhumanism and the CEO of Alcor, says:

“We have provided evidence for the reasonableness of cryonics (and always acknowledge the considerable uncertainties). You will find much of it here.

Neuroscientist Sebastian Seung thinks cryonics worth testing for its ability to preserve the connectome. He discussed this in the last chapter of his recent book, and will engage in dialogue at the Alcor-40 conference in October. There are published papers, and we have several lines of evidence that cryonics through vitrification, under reasonably good conditions, is probably preserving identity-critical information.”

Kim’s story has attracted a lot of comments on the Internet. A lot of readers offered sympathy and hope, and many of them put their heart and their money where their mouth is and donated to offer Kim a chance to continue life (YOU should the same NOW). Sadly, not all people are kind and compassionate, or intelligent, and there have been deathist comments as well.

Deathists are those politically correct morons and stupid assholes who think death is good. They are, of course, entitled to their opinion, and nobody prevents them from jumping off a cliff right now if that is what they want, leaving cleaner air to the rest of us. But no, they also want everyone to die with them. Why? Because their little minds are infected with idiocies like “death [aging, disease, etc.] are part of the human nature and give meaning to life” and similar crap. This is, of course, the same old dogmatic BS of old religions in a new (but ugly) suit. The essence of human nature is not suffering from haemorroids and diarrhea, becoming old and helpless, and die in one’s piss and vomit, but exploring new places and overcoming all limits. Aging, disease and death are not holy icons of human nature to be revered, but engineering problems to be solved, and solve them we will.

I am disturbed by the heartless cruelty (not to mention scientific illiteracy) of some authors of deathist comments on Kim’s story, and I find it sad, very sad, that their deathist dogma is so important to them that they take pleasure in denying hope to a young girl who is terminally ill and only wishes a new chance at life. FUCK YOU, deathists. And FUCK DEATH! I don’t know how long it will take to revive today’s cryonics patients, and I don’t know how long it will take to overcome death, but overcome death we will. If death is part of deathists’ holy revered “human nature,” then fuck that too.

In recent unrelated discussions, Max More has been repeatedly insulted by Dale Carrico for his calm, rational, enlightened and scientifically sound defense of cryonics. As usual, Carrico first claims that our ideas are not supported by top scientists, and then rejects the evidence of such support as “promotional material.” Also typically, he pretends that his personal attacks have something to do with science, and then refuses to debate in scientific terms because he has “pre-emptively repudiated” scientific arguments.

I have also been repeatedly insulted by Carrico and his minions in the same thread, and I am proud of it. To be insulted by deathists together with Max, a great man and a great thinker incomparably more brilliant and creative than his deathist critics,  is a badge of honor to me.

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Cryonics (source: lainformacion.com)

If you read Spanish, see this interview with some cryonicists including me published on the Spanish magazine lainformacion.com, and the interesting comments.

“De momento sólo existen tres empresas en el mundo que ofrezcan este tipo de servicios. Dos en EEUU, (la citada Alcor y Cryonics Institute, en Michigan) y la rusa KrioRus. A fecha de hoy, hay alrededor de 220 personas conservadas en nitrógeno líquido en alguna de estas tres instalaciones. Algunos conservan el cuerpo entero y otros solo la cabeza, con la esperanza de que la tecnología del futuro permita devolverlos a la vida…

Algunos teóricos del transhumanismo, como Giulio Prisco creen que en un futuro será posible la denominada “transferencia mental” (Mind uploading) que consistirá en escanear nuestras conexiones cerebrales y trasplantarlas a una máquina. “Nosotros somos información”, asegura Prisco, “una vez que la tecnología sea capaz de leer esta información y transferirla a otro soporte te habrás mudado desde tu cabeza a otra cosa”…”

  • Khani

    I caught her early on Reddit and plugged her request widely. It is good to see her request is being picked by some many people.

  • Giulio Prisco

    @K. yes I first heard of this from you. I think we are almost there, they had collected 27k a couple of days ago. I hope everything will go smoothly and she will by successfully preserved (or, even better, a spontaneous remission, these things do happen at times).

  • JD Law

    Why put a title like that on such a moving story. I do not understand why people would use the F word for bad things. Coitus is a wonderful thing. Death is a horrible thing. Why would you put the two together? George Carlin once posited “And of course the word Fuck. The word Fuck, I don’t really…well, this is some more accidental humor, but I don’t really want to get into that now. Because I think it takes too long. But I do mean that. I mean, I think the word fuck is an important word. It’s the beginning of life, and, yet it’s a word we use to hurt one other, quite often. And uh, people much wiser than I have said, I’d rather have my son watch a film with two people making love than two people trying to kill one other. And I of course agree. I wish I know who said it first, and I agree with that. But I would like to take it a step further. I would like to substitute the word fuck, for the word kill in all those movie cliches we grew up with. ‘Okay Sheriff, we’re gonna fuck ya now. But we’re gonna fuck ya slow.’ So maybe next year I’ll have a whole fuckin’ rap on that word. I hope so.”

    • René Milan

      Of course i agree with you, JD. But there’s a light, funny and clever side to it as demonstrated by the audio file that went around the web over 15 years ago and that to my surprise i just found to still be there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_PkJ_4oEjc
      Enjoy – René

  • Giulio Prisco

    @JD re “why people would use the F word for bad things”

    Right! I stand corrected. What is an alternative word to convey my total disgust for death and deathists?

    • René Milan

      Despicable ? Or as 7 of 9 would say: “irrelevant and unacceptable” ?
      Best – R.